"WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN TELLS ME MATTERS ABSOLUTELY NOT AT ALL TO ME"

Apolozan case · ERDF fraud (Bilbao / Alicante / EU)

"WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN TELLS ME MATTERS ABSOLUTELY NOT AT ALL TO ME"

Minute 13:37 of the first block of the official recording — around 10:22 in the morning. The defence lawyer is conveying to the court what his client indicates to him about a page of the file: "Of course. What he tells me is that, according to what is on the page…". And from the bench comes the reply, recorded forever in the audiovisual record of the proceedings:

"What this gentleman tells me matters absolutely not at all to me. I have understood you perfectly well as counsel."

"This gentleman" is the accused. The man whose liberty was being decided in that room. The sentence is not a party's reconstruction or a self-serving memory: it is on the official medium, transcribed in this portal, and anyone can listen to it.

A criminal trial rests on a premise that admits no exceptions: the court listens before deciding. The right to be heard is not a courtesy — it is Article 24 of the Constitution and Article 6 of the European Convention. When a judge verbalises, in the very midst of taking evidence, that what the accused says matters "absolutely not at all", the appearance of impartiality — the one European case-law considers as essential as impartiality itself — is compromised in the record.

And now, the fact that turns the sentence into a pattern: the recording of that block is interrupted 41 seconds later. The medium does not resume until 5 minutes and 41 seconds afterwards. What was said in that gap, immediately after the sentence, does not exist for history.

The key factVerbatim quote recorded in block 1 of the official medium, minute 13:37 (own transcription of A.39.3): "What this gentleman tells me matters absolutely not at all to me…". The block cuts off at 14:18 — 41 seconds later — and the recording does not resume until 10:29:20 (verifiable metadata).
The uncomfortable questionWhat did the court say in the 5 minutes and 41 seconds following that sentence — and why is that stretch, precisely that one, not in the record?
The ruleThe right to be heard by an impartial court is essential content of art. 24.2 of the Constitution and art. 6.1 ECHR; the objective appearance of impartiality is an autonomous requirement (ECtHR case-law); its breach verbalised in the record compromises the validity of the entire trial.
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